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The King Seiko Vanac - glitz from the seventies
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Better response on post The King Seiko Vanac - glitz from the seventiesThe King Seiko Vanac was manufactured between 1972 and 1974 only, in a number of variations, but all sporting colorful dials, facetted crystals and angular cases. Both Seiko production plants contributed, Suwa with the standard KS 5626 caliber and Daini with the 5246 and 5256 calibers that exist in some normal KS but are most common as Vanacs. 
A Vanac is basically/exceptionally a KS with added extras, faceted glass, a gold bezel, a high quality bracelet (no folded metal links here) drilled lugholes (but not all). The Vanac JDM (Japanese Domestic Model) in the photos below is practically unused, meaning that is has seen some use but only on occasions. It sure looks the part!

   

King Seiko was second to the GS as the most top of the line Seiko during the 1960’s and 70’s. That, I am happy to state, is very apparent for even after 42 years of service a KS can run as new to specifications (as most in my collection do). Only one other watch surpasses this performance, and it is a Seiko (of course). Some of the models (but not this one) feature an unique external adjusting screw so that the movement can be adjusted with out removing the movement from the case. That would be the 5626-7000/7010.

The two King Seiko calibres mentioned were about equally used in the rebellious “Vanac” KS models - the 52xx ones designated “special”. Most of the other King Seiko models used the 56xx stream.
The only even vaguely classically-styled KS models to use the 52xx calibre were the special chronometers 5246-6000, 5246-6010 and the 5246-7000. Daini also produced the “mere” specials 5256-8000 and 5256-8010 and the regular 5246-6020 KS.
Finally Daini, known for its design escapades, spawned some distinctly “unclassical” yet non-Vanac designs with snap-back cases: oval-cased 5246-5000 and rectangular 5246-5010 and 5246-5030 models.

   

As one can see, Vanacs are quality watches with a lot of effort put into the bracelets. Other details such as cases, hands and dials are 70s GS quality. The size is normal 70s at 36-38mm, but most do not wear small due to the chunky cases. The Vanac is not uncommon, but can be very hard to find in good condition. The facetted crystals are easily damaged and can be harder to find replacements for. Prices are decent as the designs are still a bit controversial.
Of course much of what has been said about automatic King Seikos could also be said about automatic Grand Seikos and even some of the Lordmatic (LM) models of the same period. The LM range also used both the 56xx and 52xx movement streams (although lower grade versions, and in the case of the 5606 lower beat), while many Grand Seikos of the period used the 56xx stream. Although the GS 56xx movements were numbered 564x rather than 562x indicating a higher quality and/or level of adjustment, the accuracy it is possible to achieve from 562x KS movements suggests to me that if serviced and adjusted, they are effectively equal to the GS 564x ones. So in this sense, vintage automatic King Seikos may practically be the equivalents of Grand Seikos, but offer better value for money because of the ongoing status of the Grand Seiko label (whereas the KS label is now purely historical).

Below some more pics of the Vanac...

               
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Great review. I like these Vanacs! Even though nobody seems to know what the name signifies. Reminds me of vanity...
In the end I would not buy these because I can't stand these facetted crystals, they obstruct my view of the dial.

Keep it up Collectionist, I like your contributions.
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Hey Seikoman. Nice to see you taking an interest. We are both Seikoholic possibly?
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Seikoholic? Nice wordplay here - add me to the list gents. I am not up to the higher echelons though, currently I own this lowly lordmatic...

   

This is my only pics at the required resolution...
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(05-22-2017, 10:41 PM)WisWatcher Wrote: Seikoholic? Nice wordplay here - add me to the list gents. I am not up to the higher echelons though, currently I own this lowly lordmatic...



This is my only pics at the required resolution...

Not so lowly to me. But I like the Lordmatic Specials more, then are usually a little less glitzy.  Cool
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(05-22-2017, 10:34 PM)Collectionist Wrote: Hey Seikoman. Nice to see you taking an interest. We are both Seikoholic possibly?


Oh yes... I am already down the rabbit hole.
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Yes. Seiko is addictive. Unbeatable combo of low price and quality.
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Wow, this Vanac is practically NOS (New Old Stock). That's hard to find, usually that golden bezel is pretty beat up.
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Better response on post The King Seiko Vanac - glitz from the seventiesSo I finally caved. I bought a Vanac, but one that uses the faceted glass and glitzy dial and markers to achieve a mere sporty look. The dial color also is not too far out there, like the sea green or iridescent blue, it is more a sort of purplish blue. 
The photos are crap, but I just bought it so these are the seller's pics. 

               

If you want to see my photos, look here.
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Better response on post The King Seiko Vanac - glitz from the seventiesI love that "Vanac" name, it has just the right debonair impression. A hint of vanity, a hint of French Je n'ai sais quoi....
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Great watch - and I like the fact that this vintage especially is so rare, as it was produced for such a short time. Just two years! That is hard to believe, but I suppose you have done your research (mind if I check?)
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Well, the purple one's facetted glass is not so bad as to obscure the view on the dial (and it seems original too). That is a big plus for me. Great looking watch OP..
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It is nice to see these Vanacs materialize on this forum since I have quite a number of Vanac adds uploaded...
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Yeah, that was nice work Harry - much appreciated!
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Yup, I really like those adds myself. But I am a lazy collector so I never really went for it collecting them. I do imagine they sell them on Japanese auction sites?
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They do. Selling Books and boxes too. In fact anything related to watches.
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Just watch out for import taxes...
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(07-16-2017, 06:36 PM)SeikoMan Wrote: So I finally caved. I bought a Vanac, but one that uses the faceted glass and glitzy dial and markers to achieve a mere sporty look. The dial color also is not too far out there, like the sea green or iridescent blue, it is more a sort of purplish blue. 
The photos are crap, but I just bought it so these are the seller's pics. 



If you want to see my photos, look here.

I like the Vanac line, they are really out there. Just great.
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Agreed, and gorgeous photos with those highlights! That is the beauty with facetted glass - not much used nowadays anymore.
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Hate the green, love the blue...  oh wait, it is more purplish - I like that too.
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