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Comparing Japanese Auction intermediaries
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Having bought the following watch, the discussion transitioned to buying at Japanese auction sites.... read the last two posts for a comparison.


Not as pretty as the Ricoh 590129 but still a nice watch.
Unfortunately the second hand does not hit the index markers but for 32 euro i think it is a bargain.

   
   
   
   
   
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That sure is a bargain - and the seconds hands can be aligned by a watchmaker you know...
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Where do yo get these quartzes? I have been looking for them, but no luck in finding a beautiful specimen..
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Try http://buyee.jp, a Japanese auction site... There are several other intermediaries that do the same but the site works very well for me.
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(07-26-2017, 01:14 PM)Addictionist Wrote: the seconds hands can be aligned by a watchmaker you know

Well, that would cost some money wouldn't it - maybe as much as JPF paid for the watch... That would kill the bargain.
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(07-26-2017, 01:19 PM)Beaker Wrote:
(07-26-2017, 01:14 PM)Addictionist Wrote: the seconds hands can be aligned by a watchmaker you know

Well, that would cost some money wouldn't it - maybe as much as JPF paid for the watch... That would kill the bargain.

Who cares and if you do you should maybe buy mechanical watches with a gliding seconds hand - or an Elnix of course, so you get the best of both worlds.
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I use zenmarket.jp instead of buyee.jp.
You can find some Ricoh watches on auctions.yahoo.co.jp.
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(07-26-2017, 05:00 PM)jpfwatch Wrote: I use zenmarket.jp instead of buyee.jp.
You can find some Ricoh watches on auctions.yahoo.co.jp.

Ho, learned something new again. zenmarket.. how appropriate.
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(07-26-2017, 05:21 PM)Americandad Wrote:
(07-26-2017, 05:00 PM)jpfwatch Wrote: I use zenmarket.jp instead of buyee.jp.
You can find some Ricoh watches on auctions.yahoo.co.jp.

Ho, learned something new again. Zenmarket.. how appropriate.

Didn't know that one either JPF. What would the overhead be like when buying there?
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Better response on post RE: Ricoh Riquartz 590130Hi collectionist,
zenmarket is a great site to use and very user friendly.
With zenmarket you pay 300 Yen (less than 3 euros) for bidding on an yahoo auction or if you buy something from a online shop in Japan. First time you use zenmarket it is free of charge.

You pay for shipping in Japan: about 1000 yen, you can leave the watches you bought in their warehouse for 45 days for free. Shipping to the Netherlands about 1000/2000 yen with airmail.

You must add funds to your zenmarket account before you can buy anything.
Cost for adding funds to your account:
Paypal: service fee 2,9% + 40 Yen
International wire transfer: service fee between 2000 and 4000 yen.

More about zenmarket:
http://watchdxb.com/2016/11/23/zenmarket/
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Thanks JPF. I took the liberty to really delve into it and compare the two for an identical watch, costing 115,20 euro... 
What I found is a comparable inspection fee of 500 yen (which is optional for both services), but the consolidation fees are very different. Zenmarket is free, whereas Buyee charges 1000 yen. 
Other than that, when you use PayPal you get a transaction fee, that would be the same for both - Zenmarket payment is up front for "funds" (as if they were a bank) and Buyee payment is immediate from your money source, i.e. withdrawal from your bank/cc one or two weeks later. (That does give you more time).
However, since Buyee couples the inspection fee of 500 yen to insured delivery you will always pay that extra. Moreover, since I always buy multiple items to save on customs administration charges and shipping I always would pay the 1000 for consolidation. So Buyee is 1500 yen more expensive to use, which is 11,50 euro.
Finally, let's not forget about domestic shipping, it is on the bill of Zenmarket but not mentioned at Buyee - you pay afterwards when you ship out (internationally). So add another 800 yen. Then the service fees in the Buyee pics are 650 yen higher. In the end Buyee is 2950 yen more expensive, which is 22,65 euro. 
Is it worth it? Maybe it comes down to the upfront payment or not, and the user bidding/experience. I think that 22,65 euro can provide a stimulus to abandon Buyee. I will definitely buy my next round of watches with Zenmarket to test the waters.

       
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Solid work here - thanks guys.
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I like this thread - since my last post I have been buying using buyee. Seems to suit me best somehow.
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